The Miller Twins Talk #Supernatural Ep12x10 #LilySunderHasSomeRegrets via @stacyamiller85 @tdmiller820917

A new column at The Nerdy Girl Express is The Miller Twins Talk Supernatural Season 12. Here twins and The Nerdy Girl Express writers, Stacy Miller and Tracy Miller, will share their thoughts about the heroic Winchester boys, Sam and Dean (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles) as well as the many other wonderful characters on The CW’s longest running show. Will these twins agree on the characters and plot themes for each episode? Read below to find out.

This article contains spoilers, so if you haven’t seen the episode “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” please do not continue reading.


Last week, the Winchester boys (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles) executed a daring prison escape, successfully eluded their governmental captors and were freed from a deal when their angelic friend Castiel (Misha Collins) killed Billie the Reaper (Lisa Berry).  Tonight, our favorite hunting brothers assist Castiel who faces the wrath of a mysterious woman with a deadly vendetta.

“Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” is a mouthful title that moved the story away from the British Men of Letters to focus on Castiel and the angels. Remember that there is the plot twist that Lucifer possessed POTUS and subsequently impregnated presidential aide Kelly Kline. Kline is currently M.I.A. while a Nephilim (a half-human, half-angel baby) grows inside her. Nephilims are considered an abomination in angelic circles.

This episode opens at an arcade where a woman is intensely focused on winning a video game. Soon a mysterious, eye patch wearing woman appears and a fight ensues between the video gamer and the mystery lady. We quickly learn that video gamer is actually an angel named Benjamin inhabiting a female vessel. Yet, Benjamin is unable to smite the mystery lady. Before Benjamin is killed, he (she) puts out a distress call over angel radio for assistance from his (her) angelic brothers and sisters. Castiel receives the plea.

Meanwhile at the bunker, Dean is still angry with Castiel and has been avoiding him. Dean can’t get pass the realization that Castiel killing Billie will unleash some unknown cosmic consequences. But Sam reminds his brother that Castiel saved them. Castiel interrupts the brothers’ conversation to tell them that Benjamin, an angel friend and soldier who he fought alongside of, put a call for help over angel radio just before he was killed. It isn’t long before the Winchesters join Castiel on the mission to uncover what happened.

Since angels became an integral part of the Supernatural mythology in Season 4, they have had a complicated relationship with humans. Sometimes angels seemed protective of humans. Other times (particularly during times of angelic civil war), humans were expendable; humanity became a liability to be sacrificed for a greater mission.

During the course of his investigation, Castiel talks to Ishim (an angel who has a very low opinion of humans) and learns that more angels have been slaughtered by the mysterious assailant. As we discover via flashbacks, our mystery lady is Lily Sunder, a woman who wants revenge against Castiel and the angels. Back in 1901, Lily was married to an angel and they had a daughter. This child was a nephilim so the angel squad (including Castiel who occupied a female vessel) planned to kill the little girl. The surprising twist is that Ishim (who had been involved with Lily in the past) lied: Lily’s daughter was actually human. Ishim killed her because he was jealous that Lily ended their involvement to take up with another angel. Fed by her desire for revenge, Lily became fluent in Enochian and an expert on angels. Once the angels fell and became less powerful, Lily got her retribution.


Guest star Alicia Witt gave a chilling performance as Lily. She made Lily a formidable adversary, yet viewers understood her motivation was the long standing and pervasive grief she felt after losing her daughter. In her conversations with Sam and Dean, she told them that she didn’t want to hurt them. Her grievance was with Castiel and the angels. As Lily told Sam, she was aware that each time she relied upon her angel knowledge and used her power against the angels, she lost a piece of her soul.

Ian Tracey (as the duplicitous Ishim) emerged as the true antagonist in this episode. Ishim’s jealously and lies cost numerous lives. Tracey previous appeared on Supernatural as Krissy Chambers’ hunter father who was captured by the Vetalas in the Season 7 episode “Adventures in Babysitting.”

Lily and Ishim fight, but in the end, it is Castiel who kills Ishim with the angel blade.

I think this episode offers a bit of foreshadowing. What will happen when Kelly Kline is found? Castiel is more likely to be hesitant about killing the nephilim once Kline has the baby. In addition, will Lily Sunder return to the story at some point and if so, will she become an ally to the Winchesters?

Finally, there is still the lingering question of that new albatross around the boys’ necks: the unknown cosmic consequences of Castiel killing Billie. Add to the mix the questionable intentions of the British Men of Letters.

There are so many plots remaining to unravel before the road so far carries the Winchesters towards the season finale.


Since Supernatural Season 6, viewers have seen angel Castiel (Misha Collins) make many mistakes all in the name of doing what’s right.  We’ve also seen how angels have a one track mind when it comes to following “the mission.” It goes without saying that “the mission” has been misguided for all intent purposes and that the angels have done more harm than good.  In the episode “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets,” an action taken by the angels back in 1901 brought about a hundred plus year quest for revenge.  It seems that a woman named Lily Sunder (Alicia Witt) fell in love with an angel Akobel and the union produced a Nephilim. So, the angels (Castiel included) sought out the Sunder woman and Akobel to punish Akobel and kill the Nephilim.

Castiel is still dealing with feelings from last week’s episode when he killed Reaper Billie (Lisa Berry) in order to break Sam and Dean’s (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles) stupid deal. So, we have Dean pissed off at Castiel and Castiel annoyed by the Winchesters. It was a toss-up as to who was being more childish, Dean or Castiel. Dean resorted to his old standby, which is sarcasm.  But according to Castiel, Dean took it to the next level by making it nasty sarcasm. If you’re being mean to me, I’m not talking to you…so there was Castiel’s response. Ever the peacemaker, Sam tried to get his brother and Castiel to be friends again. There is a truce between Dean and Castiel as he and the Winchesters are on their way in response to a distress call put out by the angel Benjamin before he is killed by an eye patch wearing nemesis.  Usually Castiel wants to work with Sam and Dean, (Remember when he wanted to be a hunter?) but this time he prefers to go at it alone, insisting the Winchesters wait outside while he meets with angels Ishmil and Mirabel in a diner to discuss what happened to Benjamin.  But of course, Sam and Dean don’t listen and end up coming into the diner.  Ishmil doesn’t want the “human apes” involved in angel business.  The mysterious eye patch wearing woman kills Mirabel outside the diner and injurers Ishmil.  We learn about the woman, Lily Sunder and see that Ishmil killed her angel husband Akobel and their daughter May.  However, as the episode progresses, it is revealed that May was a human child.  Apparently, Lily had summoned Ishmil to learn about angels and Ishmil became obsessed with her and jealous over her romance with Akobel.  Thus, he lied to the angels that May was a Nephilim and had to be destroyed.  The question I asked myself as I listened to this story was if angels were emotionless beings bent on following orders, why did Ishmil experience human feelings such as jealousy?


The major theme of “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” was the cost of revenge.  For Lily, it was the slow burning of her soul. But a mother will pay any price for her child. Lily’s association with Ishmil put her daughter in danger and forced her into a long life becoming someone she no longer recognized. Revenge poisoned Lily’s soul almost as much as her spell.

The best thing about the episode was it was difficult to tell who was good and who was evil for most of it. Lily started out as the villain because she had killed Benjamin and Ishmil was a hero out to stop her from killing other angels. But then we learned that Ishmil was evil and killed an innocent child.  For powerful beings, the angels on Supernatural are flawed and focus on their own needs and motivations under the guise of following the mission.  As the episode ends, Castiel kills Ishmil and offers his life to Lily if she feels he deserves to die.

Although I’m not a huge fan of Castiel centric episodes because I’d rather see stories focused on Sam and Dean, “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” surprised me. That was due to guest stars Alicia Witt as Lily and Ian Tracey as Ishmil.  These two actors delivered powerful performances.

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